She sent a friend request and I accepted. That was quite some time ago. I knew she was a graphic designer who's also offering wedding card printing services, but I didn't mind because I regarded her a fellow businesswomen & designer. A few days ago, to my surprise I saw an artwork which is similar to one of my buntings, posted on her wall. Then I found out, there are three more.
I was frustrated, dissatisfied and let it all out on my personal wall.
But, in order to clear the air, I left messages on her photo walls to inform her about the similarity and also the link to my blog. She responded a few minutes later. A typical respond which was expected earlier (refer to the above)
I left the same remark on each artwork. Note the 'copyright' claim, one for each artwork.
A few minutes later, I could no longer view the artworks and also her entire Facebook profile. I was removed as a friend. But unfortunately it did not end there...
As the saying goes, walls have ears. A few amusing questions raised when I was given an opportunity to view her wall comments later.
1) All my earlier comments on the buntings similarity were removed, together with her "kebetulan" & "tak mungkin meniru" comments.
2) Did she make a 180deg turn from saying it was all 'kebetulan' and "tak mungkin meniru" to admitting copying my work? She justifiied her act by claiming that copying is an art form, but what she did was not just copying, it's close imitation of the original.
3) I do understand that we are 'inspired by' or to create new ideas from observations and research. Being creative & innovative is something, but making an exact copy and then claiming a copyright, that is something else. And if that was what her lecturer taught her, I am appalled.
4) The industry of wedding invitation card is evolving. The designs are more personal & revolutionized. Our b2b's and g2b's are now more creative with all sorts of ideas for their special cards of the special day. Customers are wiser and more aware of getting the best money can buy. Those with limited budget should not be left behind. That is what artchetak all about. We are trying to give new and fresh ideas which are affordable to everyone.
5) How does she expect me to "bising" on her wall if I was no longer her facebook friend. YOU REMOVED ME, REMEMBER?
What is she babbling about? Of course lah you did the editing yourself. But there's difference between coming up with a totally new artwork which is inspired by another artwork; and making ("editing") an exact copy.
Eh! I thought you said it was all your ideas, why did your friend said it was your customer's? So, which is it?
Ok, last but not least, this is exactly what I mean, "inspired by an idea/concept" versus "copycat" (or some say "good editing"). I spent less than 15 minutes for "good editing" artwork. But it took me 4 days and several emails with customer to get the final artwork of "inspired by original".
Even I couldn't propose something with the likes of the "good editing" artwork to customer, tak sanggup beb!
i like & thnk u make me famous : luna
ReplyDeletei wonder...she removed u but u still acess her FB?huhuhuh...stalkerrrr!!!!!
ReplyDeleteIf it was me, I'm get angry also, copying a certain style I can understand.. but to copy bulat bulat like that.. just shows the mentality of some people.
ReplyDeleteShe probably charged too low and realised it wasn't worth it to spend so much time and resorted to it.
Oh no, now that I've commented on it.. Perhaps she'll copy my designs to.. Now that would be something to behold.
lots of copycats outside there .....adry azad ...have to know it : luna
ReplyDeleteoh yes .... i will upload final design ..... come & singgah to my page : by the way thanxs make me famous like famous amos : hehehhee :
ReplyDeletelots of love : luna
Cik durra, i like the way you express your feeling towards this matter. Your are not only professional but you also keep the core value that probably put a lot of shame to others. always remember what goes around come around. Even though i myself against plagiarism, but sometimes we cant stop others to do the same. There are species like this that will never admit their mistake and continue to be defensive, well bless them. May God show them the right path someday. Truth never sink.
ReplyDeleteAnd as for you, i wish you all the best and continue your great job like what you are doing now. sincere and honest can never go wrong. :)
YA ALLAH , WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS? HOW OLD ARE YOU GUYS? ARENT YOU ASHAMED OF YOUNG GENEATION WHY SHOULD YOU KEEP ARGUING LIKE THIS? IT WASNT ONLY SHOWING ONE SIDE MENTALITY ONLY . BUT BOTH. I HIGHLIGHT HERE, BOTH , SO STOP POINTING TO OTHERS AND KEEP BLAMING PEOPLE, WHY DONT JUST SEEK FOR FORGIVENESS AND THANKFULL TO ALLAH . AND FOR THE PERSON THAT FELT SHE WAS OPPOSES , MISS/MS DURRAH , I THINK ITS YOUR FAULT TOO , YOU UPLOAD STUFF LIKE THAT TO FB , WHAT IF U DIDNT UPLOAD? NO ONE WILL KNOW UR DESIGN AN WHAT , U HAVE TO BEAR THE CONSEQUENSES WHEN U UPLOADED THAT DESIGN AND TELL ME . WHICH CARD IS ETERNALLY YOUR DESIGN , I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME BUT THEY ARE INSPIRED FROM OTHER DESIGNER AND WHY DONT U JUST PATERN YOUR DESIGN TO MAKE SURE NO ONE COPY , EVEN THE THOUSANDS LV , GUCCI AND STUFF , PEOPLE MAKE IMITATION , COPY AND ALL , WHAT U CAN PROMISE TO THE CUSTOMER ARE YOUR BEST AND FULL SERVICES , AND THATS HOW YOU CAN GAIN MORE CUSTOMER . AND LUNA .MAYBE YOU SHOULD THINK A BETTER WAY TO HANDLE IT AND STUFF , I DONT THINK COPYING IS WRONG OR WHAT ,BECAUSE MY WHOLE LIFE , I SAW MANY SAME WEDDING CARDS AND DIFFERENG DESIGNER OR PUBLISHER AND I WISH U GUYS PROSPEROS AND PEACE LIFE , IAM ONLY 19 TEENAGER AND I FEEL SO ASHAMED THIS THING HAPPENED , MAY ALLAH BLESS YOU
ReplyDeletei work as a profesional & positive thinking ...
ReplyDeleteits no time for me to quarrel like this
as long i respect u older than me .....not bcoz of ur artwork ,but ur attitude ....shows that ...u have to learn being profesionl & positive thinking ....
love : luna
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ReplyDeleteI rasa isu ini tidak sepatutnya berlarutan, sepatutnya masing2 dah aware, when it's come to design and art.. selagi u x pergi daftar as a trademark, x blh nk claim itu idea 100% you punya... how can we possibility know that the design is 100% from Durra, there's a trillion of design in this worlds that might be as same as yours... and Luna pun x salah u nak tiru or take her as a reference, maybe u shud make a couple of change to the design.. i rasa perbalahan ini sgt2 childish... if you guys tgok industri luar yg buat bisnes sama dgn korg... dari segi idea invitation card, gift boxes, business card... i rasa lebih kurg sama je... but do they argue??? i don't think so, sppsly ini yg mmbuatkan korg lagi giat n rajin utk cari idea2 baru... i hrp both of u x terasa hati apa yg i ckp ni... and kepada yg rasa tidak bersetuju.. dont tell me you guys x pernah meniru... cara berpakaian... the way we talk.. kehidupan seharian kita lalui adalah meniru sekeliling... oh ya.. i setuju dgn komen anonymous dlm post sblum ni... "Give away everything you know, and more will come back to you. Ideas are open knowledge . Don't claim ownership. So don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats." ~ hentikan la perbalahan ini ~ peace ^^
Durra, sekali I baca I dah faham apa yg u tak puas hati. I remember what u told me when I e-mailed u the birthday invitation sample the other day, u refused to copy but come up with a better art piece. I respect you for that and very happy for the personalized invitation ( a happy customer...well not really a customer but u got it right?) As a professional (in a different field of course) I do understand and respect your professionalism. This miss Luna seemed to have missed the point. You know my job Durra, I was trained to pick up on the inconsistency of peoples words. Many times she keep saying copying is not wrong. It's a form of art (thank god I wasn't in this field or else I would have fought with the lecturer on this and failed) and that she did better editing than you. By saying that over and over again she has in fact by her own words admitted that she copied but you but wasn't ashamed for claiming copyright of the design. Maybe she means copyright of the editing work (you know we older people always gives younger people benefit of the doubt).
ReplyDeleteDon't let this affect you Durra, we older yet wiser people get your point and respect you for that. The younger generations these days becoming more and more arrogant and less professional. but i bet they will one day by age become wiser.
-Rose-
bisnes mana pun mmg selalu kena mcm ni... but i think u r creative... so just come up with more new ideas... so urs will b fresh ones and she'll use all the basi ones...
ReplyDeletedura: dun worry!one idea copied by others and u may have thousand ideas better than others. u r creative and i can see originality in ur works. i thought that artsy people/designers alwiz wud want to have their personal originality in their works? so pelik with her statement..hehe..
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